The Lost and the Damned

The Lost and the Damned

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  • Author:Guy Haley
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Summary

Book 2 in The Horus Heresy: The Siege of Terra。 Essential reading for all Horus Heresy fans。

On the thirteenth day of Secundus, the bombardment of Terra began。。。 With the solar defences overcome through the devastating strength of the Traitor armada and the power of the warp, Horus launches his assault on the Throneworld in earnest。 After withstanding a ferocious barrage of ordnance, an immense ground war commences outside the Palace with every inch gained paid for in the lives of billions。 The front lines are beyond horrific and the very air is reduced to poison and blood。 Bodies are thrown into the meatgrinder but the outer redoubts cannot possibly hold for long, even with the loyal primarchs to reinforce them。 For Horus has his own generals to call upon。。。 Between the plague weapons of Mortarion and the fury of Angron, the defenders face a losing battle。

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Sud666

The events described in the Siege of Terra novels are vaguely known。 What these novels do is shed detailed light on the specific events。Horus' army has arrived。 The first forces make landfall。 I loved the fact that Haley tells the initial stages of this monstrous battle through the eyes of frightened conscripts。 While there are quite a few moments of the high and mighty (Primarchs and such) there is a good attempt to see the war through the eyes of the normal baseline human。The changes in the fa The events described in the Siege of Terra novels are vaguely known。 What these novels do is shed detailed light on the specific events。Horus' army has arrived。 The first forces make landfall。 I loved the fact that Haley tells the initial stages of this monstrous battle through the eyes of frightened conscripts。 While there are quite a few moments of the high and mighty (Primarchs and such) there is a good attempt to see the war through the eyes of the normal baseline human。The changes in the fallen Primarchs are noticeable。 Many of the interesting details that are in this story are truly interesting。 From Angron's rampages to the war plan of Horus。 It explains much about why the Chaos forces did the assault in the manner in which they did。 There was a sinister mystical aspect that often gets overlooked。This is an epic story and the battles are intense。 From the lighting strikes of the Great Khan and Sanguinius to seeing the return of the Titan Legio Solaris- this one is truly an amazing story。 While, perhaps, not the best place to start for a newbie-the 40k enthusiast will find plenty to love in this excellent novel。 。。。more

Robert

Good edition to the series。 It suffers some of the criticisms of other books in the series (e。g。 not a great standalone, insufficient character development, etc)。 I don't necessarily see these faults because I've followed the series through。 Good edition to the series。 It suffers some of the criticisms of other books in the series (e。g。 not a great standalone, insufficient character development, etc)。 I don't necessarily see these faults because I've followed the series through。 。。。more

Edward Kuruliouk

4。5/5

Christian Freed

Standard Black Library。 I was surprised that a few characters survived the end。 The battles were massive, the strategy deep- and slightly alarming with the waste of lives- but the ending is building as traitor legions start operating on Terra。

Siobhan Harmer

I can’t even just write a dumb sentence like I usually do; this book’s great

Costin Pătru

Pretty decent。Sets up the Siege really well。 Also killer starting sentence。Which was already given。

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Jessica Woods

While John French's Solar War was about as fun as pouring salt down your pants this book was not half that bad! Although a little long winded and drawn out in what is clearly an attempt at dragging things out so the other authors can milk this series as much as possible。The trench Warfare was a work of art。。。。 a horrible and terrifying work of art which is perfect for this sort of thing but I've honestly had enough of this series following humans。 get back to the Space Marines, the last 30 pages While John French's Solar War was about as fun as pouring salt down your pants this book was not half that bad! Although a little long winded and drawn out in what is clearly an attempt at dragging things out so the other authors can milk this series as much as possible。The trench Warfare was a work of art。。。。 a horrible and terrifying work of art which is perfect for this sort of thing but I've honestly had enough of this series following humans。 get back to the Space Marines, the last 30 pages with the marines was where this book REALLY picked up。With all the said I am still mentally traumatized by John French's Solar War。 I've never been an advocate of book burnings but I'm starting to think it wouldn't be so bad for that one。 The Lost on the Damned on the other hand can stay, if you're a fan of trench warfare fiction give this a go! 。。。more

Chris Bowley

This impressed me - much better than the first 'Siege' book and the best HH book I've read in quite a while。 I couldn't think of many ways Guy Haley could've improved it, thus the 5 star rating。 Plot was engaging from start to finish, we get a lot of time with the Primarchs (who were each written consistently), the less significant viewpoints actually added to the story and there were some highly memorable scenes。 This impressed me - much better than the first 'Siege' book and the best HH book I've read in quite a while。 I couldn't think of many ways Guy Haley could've improved it, thus the 5 star rating。 Plot was engaging from start to finish, we get a lot of time with the Primarchs (who were each written consistently), the less significant viewpoints actually added to the story and there were some highly memorable scenes。 。。。more

Chaz Sexington

What I learned from this is that Jagatai Khan has a live, love, laugh sign on his wall。 Yes, he's one of those people。 He even inspires it in others, according to Guy Haley's prose。 I quote:"The Warhawk was a restless wind that filled Katsuhiro with the need to rush forwards, to charge through the enemy, to ride them down and never stop moving, to doubt all, to know all, to laugh and live fully through best of times and the worst of times。"This continues throughout the book, as the master of "te What I learned from this is that Jagatai Khan has a live, love, laugh sign on his wall。 Yes, he's one of those people。 He even inspires it in others, according to Guy Haley's prose。 I quote:"The Warhawk was a restless wind that filled Katsuhiro with the need to rush forwards, to charge through the enemy, to ride them down and never stop moving, to doubt all, to know all, to laugh and live fully through best of times and the worst of times。"This continues throughout the book, as the master of "tell, don't show," Guy Haley goes to any length to let us know exactly what we should be thinking and feeling at any moment in verbose detail。 This, sadly, also brings the pace to a crawl, where not much happens as we are entombed in a labyrinth of emotional descriptions。 This style also comes across as heavy handed, and cause quite a bit of dissonance。 What he writes and what the reader is supposed to feel crashes fairly often。 One example is that Sanguinius comes across as an emo kid who just discovered Fallout Boy, but we're supposed to feel some sort of grandiose sadness rather than eyerolling as he dyes his fringe。 The Primarchs act like children, which is rather tedious。 I understand Horus is struggling to keep them together, but the Traitor Primarchs are utterly useless, with Angron and Fulgrim topping the scale of idiocy, followed by Perturabo。 These are supposed to be flawed, yet highly competent characters, but their incompetence is on par with Alpharius losing to Dorn at asymmetric warfare in Praetorian of Dorn。 The Loyalists are all hyper-competent, Traitors are, to a man, SPECTRE goons, with Abaddon being an exception as the only baddie coming across as somewhat competent。 The book also suffers from a lack of focus。 It rapidly spills into too many inconsequential characters。 The editor should've stopped a few of the chapters, but there you go。 The editor should also have put his foot down on some of the cameos - they're shoehorned in with no real purpose。In the end, the Lost and the Damned winds up a filler book。 It has no real purpose, it has no significant plot to speak of, and seems to be cobbled together from a bunch of half-born ideas, padded with descriptions to bring the page count up to something Tolkien would write。 。。。more

Michael Good

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it, click here。 Thank you。 Thank you Guy Haley。 As usual you perform but at the finale you have produced your best work and failed to flop like John French。 Epic book。 Truly captured the scale and enormity of the battle of Terra。 It was imperative to include some sort of guard unit, instead we got conscripts and was flawlessly written。 Why? Because we need to be able to relate what is happening and to try immerse yourself seeing through a human soldiers eyes helps。 A thrilling arc for Katsuhiro, some parts on l Thank you。 Thank you Guy Haley。 As usual you perform but at the finale you have produced your best work and failed to flop like John French。 Epic book。 Truly captured the scale and enormity of the battle of Terra。 It was imperative to include some sort of guard unit, instead we got conscripts and was flawlessly written。 Why? Because we need to be able to relate what is happening and to try immerse yourself seeing through a human soldiers eyes helps。 A thrilling arc for Katsuhiro, some parts on level with ‘Eisenhorn’ which in my opinion is the greatest 40k book I have ever read。 Fabulous free flowing dialogue between Primarch’s。 Primarch’s ripping soldiers to shreds which is what we have invested into was plentiful。 Raldaron was different level and once again we see why he is a hero of the imperium and well respected amongst all astartes。 I do wish he killed the Night Lord leader with his blade, run his sword through his gut instead of him falling to his death。 Not vengeful enough。 Picking at scraps though to be honest。 The 1st book was so poor I felt robbed and the fact so many people enjoyed it baffled me。 The second book was almost perfect。 Next up The First Wall by Gav Thorpe who has produced great books。 Let hope his work can match the previous novel。 。。。more

Ray

I thought that this book was an excellent introduction to the Siege of Terra the biggest event in Games Workshop 40k lore。 Each of the sub stories demonstrate the scope and scale of the engagement from the moment Horus arrives above the skies of Terra。 Normally in a Black Library book there is a point of view or sub story that feels forced but in this book this is simply not the case。 Each viewpoint, each chapter adds to the arc。 The Khan and Sanguinius have their moments to shine but no one is I thought that this book was an excellent introduction to the Siege of Terra the biggest event in Games Workshop 40k lore。 Each of the sub stories demonstrate the scope and scale of the engagement from the moment Horus arrives above the skies of Terra。 Normally in a Black Library book there is a point of view or sub story that feels forced but in this book this is simply not the case。 Each viewpoint, each chapter adds to the arc。 The Khan and Sanguinius have their moments to shine but no one is forgotten。 I really appreciated the end notes by Guy Haley identifying his thoughts and inspiration for the work。I would highly recommend this book in the series, for anyone with even a casual interest in 30k/40k。 。。。more

Michael Bradbury

An entertaining read that throttles along。 Haley has a good handle on the main characters, and introduces interesting new ones。 That said, not much ultimately happens in the book (that's not necessarily on Haley - the events covered are there by design to fit in with the overall story), and some of the prose can be a bit clunky。 However, a must read for fans of the series or Warhammer 40K in general。 An entertaining read that throttles along。 Haley has a good handle on the main characters, and introduces interesting new ones。 That said, not much ultimately happens in the book (that's not necessarily on Haley - the events covered are there by design to fit in with the overall story), and some of the prose can be a bit clunky。 However, a must read for fans of the series or Warhammer 40K in general。 。。。more

Lee Frost

This was a slow starter for me, and other books got in the way of me ploughing through。That being said the finale to this has set the scene for years to come。 I cannot wait to see how the writers handle the remainder of the Siege。

Matthew

Legit amazing。 Best Horus Heresy book in a long while。

Declan Waters

The Heresy begins to close and 3 Primarchs stand to defend Terra from Horus and his traitor fleets。 This story has fewer main participants than the first book and, as such, is much easier to follow。 (It also helps it includes my favourite Primarch!!) Terra is under attack from orbit, land, and the warp; and Horus makes progress。

Jeff Nordberg

The first 4。5 stars of the year。 Pacing earlier in the book held it back, but enjoyed the collection of primarchs and their competing perspectives。

Roberto Golović

Guy Haley, you bow to no one, not even Dan Abnett。

Alessandra Di Giovanni

Salvato in corner。

Tadas Talaikis

OMC, same meaningless, idealess nonsense。 Dropped like other books。

Andy

It's a bit of a struggle to review "gaming" fiction in general。 The backgrounds, characters and stories are often fun and interesting but, to put it politely, the "quality of the writing varies" and unfortunately, it usually doesn't vary much if-you-know-what-I-mean。So, that being said this book is fine。 If you're a 40k fan, I recommend it。 It's nice to see more detail on a very critical bit of history。 But if you are just 40k-curious, I don't think there's much here for you。。。 better to start o It's a bit of a struggle to review "gaming" fiction in general。 The backgrounds, characters and stories are often fun and interesting but, to put it politely, the "quality of the writing varies" and unfortunately, it usually doesn't vary much if-you-know-what-I-mean。So, that being said this book is fine。 If you're a 40k fan, I recommend it。 It's nice to see more detail on a very critical bit of history。 But if you are just 40k-curious, I don't think there's much here for you。。。 better to start off with something like Xenos, or the Gaunt's Ghosts series by Dan Abnett。 。。。more

Edward George

Like with the previous book, I find myself enjoying the moments where it’s more dialogue and introspection than combat。 The parts with the conscript soldiers being used as shields against Horus’s opening offensive comes to mind。 It’s harrowing to read what they go through, and the horrors of war that they witness, all for a cause that’s both beyond them and is vital for humanity’s survival。 Another high point is seeing how the traitor leadership is doing, and how much of a balancing act is neede Like with the previous book, I find myself enjoying the moments where it’s more dialogue and introspection than combat。 The parts with the conscript soldiers being used as shields against Horus’s opening offensive comes to mind。 It’s harrowing to read what they go through, and the horrors of war that they witness, all for a cause that’s both beyond them and is vital for humanity’s survival。 Another high point is seeing how the traitor leadership is doing, and how much of a balancing act is needed to keep these forces together, forces that hate each other almost as much if not more than the loyalists that they’re fighting, such is the way of Chaos。 I don’t know if I’d recommend the siege of terra books to new readers, given that most of the ones who are reading these books have been there since the start。 And I think Black Library knows that too。 Why else wold they sell limited editions 3 months early for £50? I realise that there are collectors out there who appreciate that, but I don’t care much for the wait that everyone else has to endure before finally being able to read it for themselves。 By that point, it’s not really new anymore。。。 it’s been out for months。 But I digress。 I enjoyed the book, will keep reading because I’ve come too far now。 。。。more

Emerson Sullivan

It started out a little slow but once past that the narrative and background kept me entertained。 Im excited for the next six books。

Monsour

Angel Boy is the Best Boy change my mind。

Odinson Library

Civil war on a cosmic scale。The Lost and the Damned by Guy Haley is the second book in The Horus Heresy: The Siege of Terra series, and boy did they nail it with that title。 This book is about the siege and how the good guys are slowly losing ground but still fight heroically。 It is a good read but a bit repetitive and very little actually happens, especially with Horus (the big baddie) pulling a Thanos from the first Avengers films, sitting around and sending others out to do his work。This nove Civil war on a cosmic scale。The Lost and the Damned by Guy Haley is the second book in The Horus Heresy: The Siege of Terra series, and boy did they nail it with that title。 This book is about the siege and how the good guys are slowly losing ground but still fight heroically。 It is a good read but a bit repetitive and very little actually happens, especially with Horus (the big baddie) pulling a Thanos from the first Avengers films, sitting around and sending others out to do his work。This novel takes place in the Warhammer 40k universe, where the god-emperor and his favoured son act out the fall of Lucifer。 Horus has joined the literal forces of Chaos and attacks Terra to create a new empire for himself。Having grown up playing Warhammer and Warhammer 40k, the general plot points were familiar to me and I know the world。 I do worry that with so many view points and in-world terms it may get confusing for new readers。 That being said though, I can't imagine a reader going into this one blind。 It was written for a specific audience, and hits that target。 Warhammer fans will be happy with this further exploration of its universe。The Lost And The Damned ebook provided by Netgalley in exchange for an honest review。 。。。more

Hawke Embers

If I had to compare the Solar War to anything it would be that of a delicious looking meat pie。 HUGE and filled with mouth watering promise but when you take a mouthful you realize its just pastry with no substance。 So while French was busy attempting to put readers off the Horus Heresy Guy Haley was busy at work making a new and better pie! A pie filled with flavor, substance and an edgier title!Now, I don’t even like pie all that much but what I'm trying to say is that if the Solar War left an If I had to compare the Solar War to anything it would be that of a delicious looking meat pie。 HUGE and filled with mouth watering promise but when you take a mouthful you realize its just pastry with no substance。 So while French was busy attempting to put readers off the Horus Heresy Guy Haley was busy at work making a new and better pie! A pie filled with flavor, substance and an edgier title!Now, I don’t even like pie all that much but what I'm trying to say is that if the Solar War left an unsavory taste in your mouth, like the pastry tasted suspiciously like granite, then give The Lost and The Dammed a go it is a huge improvement!It took me a while to get around to this one after the last disappointment so let me start by saying this was a good book and while French attempted to remove the personalities of the Primarchs, the Lost and The Damned returns them to life。 Rogal Dorn says more than a few worst in this novel and there are some good character moments between these demi-gods and even the minor characters’ felt fleshed out。Unlike the Solar War there was a real sense of scale here too, with doom and gloom at every turn but a tangle hope (At least for some characters’) looming on the horizon。 Here, you will understand Rogal Dorn's defensive strategy unlike in the previous book and the fight choreography was expertly crafted。 This novel is teeming with life but it is not perfect。 I still felt there was a little too much focus on the little guy and maybe this is a personal preference but I would have much rather have seen more from the perspective of the Astartes。 Despite this, these insignificant characters’ are all well fleshed out and do help give a good sense of the scale of the conflict。 There is a real sense of apocalyptic scale in this book, this is after all, the greatest conflict in anything ever written (In Terms of Scale)。 Sadly there is also a little bit of PC checkboxing going on in this novel; like many BL novels these days but while French handles it with all the subtlety of stepping on a bear trap, Haley intergrades’ it into the narrative without it feeling too forced, so it was alright and allows the reader to focus on the bigger picture。 Overall, a solid sci-fi novel and I feel less sceptical going foward, I hope you do too。 。。。more

Chavdar Chankov

The Lost and the Damned had great moments as I expect from every Siege of Terra book。 I was interested to see how those stories would play out。 As always the traitor parts are the best, because they give us a glimpse into their world。 But I think the story got clogged at a point that made it harder to read。 Also there were some sub character stories that led nowhere。 Such as the Dark Mechanicum one, the flyer one, Kharn and If i might say, even Sanguinius。 But still there were plenty of cool mom The Lost and the Damned had great moments as I expect from every Siege of Terra book。 I was interested to see how those stories would play out。 As always the traitor parts are the best, because they give us a glimpse into their world。 But I think the story got clogged at a point that made it harder to read。 Also there were some sub character stories that led nowhere。 Such as the Dark Mechanicum one, the flyer one, Kharn and If i might say, even Sanguinius。 But still there were plenty of cool moments to make up for it。 。。。more

derek

Really enjoyed this one。 Again White Scars show themselves unexpectedly as one of the most enjoyable legions。 I liked the POV of the trooper passages。

Paul McClenaghan

Another excellent performance from Jonathan Keeble! Was excellent to hear the siege from the outlook of the normal human troops and not just the Astartes。

James Fishwick

Managed to keep a strong central narrative despite the large cast and epic scale。 Still, like most 40k stuff, utterly failed Bechdel。 Considering it's a rare Horus Heresy book where the all-male Astartes aren't the central characters, this feels like a missed opportunity。It's a pretty bleak book, i know that put some people off, but that's fine by me。 It's a bleak story, the Siege of Terra。 Managed to keep a strong central narrative despite the large cast and epic scale。 Still, like most 40k stuff, utterly failed Bechdel。 Considering it's a rare Horus Heresy book where the all-male Astartes aren't the central characters, this feels like a missed opportunity。It's a pretty bleak book, i know that put some people off, but that's fine by me。 It's a bleak story, the Siege of Terra。 。。。more